Compartmentalization of Topics and Thoughts

Started by alienhand, November 03, 2018, 10:57:16 PM

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ConservativeInCT

Quote from: alienhand on November 16, 2018, 09:48:41 AM
I presented you with facts from the bureau of labor statistics.  I explained the motor coordination issues I have.  I explained about how much I have difficulty with the whole hiring process.  I've explained how I can't take a job others refuse to give me.  I have difficulty with how employers expecting one to pretend to be someone who isn't and how one has to exaggerate himself.  Not only can't I mentally do it but I think it is dirty, foul and dishonest.  And, when I walk through the shining city called liberty with my flashlight I ask "Can I find an honest man?" 

So, Solar I graciously accept your ban with gratitude and I have to say parting is such sweet sorrow.  So, I shall take my leave and bid you adieu and many blessings with lots of good fortune my liege.

Lol Is it finally over now? The reason you have yet to answer these simple questions is that we know exactly what you are going to say. The fact is, you want the government to take care of you. Which is a fine answer, but not the one that is reflected? Live on in snowflake land buddy.

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on November 16, 2018, 09:48:41 AM
I presented you with facts from the bureau of labor statistics.  I explained the motor coordination issues I have.  I explained about how much I have difficulty with the whole hiring process.  I've explained how I can't take a job others refuse to give me.  I have difficulty with how employers expecting one to pretend to be someone who isn't and how one has to exaggerate himself.  Not only can't I mentally do it but I think it is dirty, foul and dishonest.  And, when I walk through the shining city called liberty with my flashlight I ask "Can I find an honest man?" 

So, Solar I graciously accept your ban with gratitude and I have to say parting is such sweet sorrow.  So, I shall take my leave and bid you adieu and many blessings with lots of good fortune my liege.
Translation:
I get welfare, so why in the fuck should I lower myself to making less than what welfare pays me?
Reason? Because you can still receive benefits while returning something to society, and knowing you're not just stealing from others.
But that's below you, right? Ya know who else thinks this way? Every thief on the planet.
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alienhand

Quote from: ConservativeInCT on November 16, 2018, 09:52:17 AM
Lol Is it finally over now? The reason you have yet to answer these simple questions is that we know exactly what you are going to say. The fact is, you want the government to take care of you. Which is a fine answer, but not the one that is reflected? Live on in snowflake land buddy.

Yes, it is over and I'm moving on.  There is no point in continuing a conversation that is fruitless with a group who has already made up their minds. 

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on November 16, 2018, 10:01:33 AM
Yes, it is over and I'm moving on.  There is no point in continuing a conversation that is fruitless with a group who has already made up their minds.
I thought you leftist, umm, left us.
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walkstall

Quote from: Solar on November 16, 2018, 11:52:49 AM
I thought you leftist, umm, left us.

Does this mean he will delete his account.   :rolleyes: 

Not until he gets the last word in.   :lol:

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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

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We should make his last word his last word here.
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alienhand

Quote from: Solar on November 16, 2018, 09:58:22 AM
Translation:
I get welfare, so why in the fuck should I lower myself to making less than what welfare pays me?
Reason? Because you can still receive benefits while returning something to society, and knowing you're not just stealing from others.
But that's below you, right? Ya know who else thinks this way? Every thief on the planet.

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/steal

Let's use your dictionary and look up the word steal.  A dictionary that we must use since you believe that any dictionaries past the 19th century are worthless since supposedly there is a liberal conspiracy which involves the dictionaries. 

Let's use the first definition. 

1. To take and carry away feloniously, as the personal goods of another. To constitute stealing or theft, the taking must be felonious, that is, with an intent to take what belongs to another, and without his consent.

So, the criteria for stealing since you say I'm a thief and I steal is this:

a.  I take what belongs to another

b.  I take what belongs to another without his consent.

I disagree with this and here is why.

a.  We live in a society

b.  By living in a society we consent to its laws.

c.   One can remove consent by leaving.

d.   A law in our society and all societies requires no unanimous consent to be passed.  In other words, 100% of the population doesn't have to agree with said law for it to be passed. 

e.  The articles of confederation prove that unanimous consent is impossible to have.   It is not possible to make laws or govern a society with a society that requires 100% agreement from the populace.

f.  SSDI and other forms of Social Security were created by laws that were passed by representatives we voted in.   

g.   For one to receive the SSDI aspect of social security one has to put in that certain percentage. 

h.  I put in that percentage and placed my contribution. 

i.  If one really wants to see this as theft and I was legally obligated by government to put in while I did work then I'm receiving back what was stolen from me.  If I'm receiving back what was stolen from me then logically I can't be a thief since I took nothing that belonged to me without consent.  And, remember laws do not require unanimous consent and consent can't exist. 

j.  If one doesn't want consent to be governed by the laws of a given nation then one should leave.

k.   If the Bible is true,  if it truthfully is the word of God and believes it is so, he is our creator, the US constitution is supposed to be based on Godly law, we're supposed to obey everything he says to do, if the Bible says render unto Caesar to which is Caesar's and render onto God what is Gods, and the passage is supposed to be taken literally then not all of the revenue you bring in from the fruits of your labor is yours.  It belongs to Caesar (Government of your kingdom or nation) and God. 

l.  Part of what Caesar receives belongs to God as well.

m.  God's portion is supposed to go to the poor, disenfranchised, disabled, etc.

Conclusion:   I can't be a thief since I'm not taking what belongs to another since the portion I receive comes from the ordainment of what I put in SSDI in the past, what my employers put in, the US government (which doesn't go by unanimous consent) and God himself.  One can't steal from someone if what was taken didn't belong to said person in the first place.  It is God and Caesar who chose to give me what I've been blessed with based upon US law and God's law.

walkstall

Quote from: alienhand on November 16, 2018, 09:48:41 AM

So, Solar I graciously accept your ban with gratitude and I have to say parting is such sweet sorrow.  So, I shall take my leave and bid you adieu and many blessings with lots of good fortune my liege.


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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."