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Started by alienhand, November 03, 2018, 10:57:16 PM

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ConservativeInCT

Quote from: alienhand on November 11, 2018, 10:57:42 AM
Well, if you won't accept that then you are demanding that life be fair then.  Yet, you, Solar and other personality responsibility advocates demand all of us accept that life is not fair.  Yet, shouldn't you also?

:lol: :lol: I think you are in no position to be telling me what is fair and what's not fair alienhand. Me, a working man in school who pays almost thirty percent of my income to lazy bums like you?

alienhand

Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2018, 11:43:36 AM
You didn't answer the question. Why are you so afraid of failure, that it interferes with your simply getting a job, any damn job?

Let's turn this question around.  Why do employers have a fear of hiring me when I did everything you and others suggested bu submitting applications?

ConservativeInCT

Quote from: alienhand on November 11, 2018, 07:17:08 PM
Let's turn this question around.  Why do employers have a fear of hiring me when I did everything you and others suggested bu submitting applications?

I have no idea why they won't. As you've said before, I don't know your life. I don't know your conditions, and I do not know why you aren't being hired. From engaging in this thread with various other members it seems to me like you have this sense of privilege with you (just an observation) that you carry with you in order to justify not working certain jobs. I know you don't like the 'judgments' of Solar and I but you can't deny that through these conversations you have neglected to seek our certain jobs based upon reasonings you have constructed.

Getting a job is not also solely about submitting applications. It's about establishing connections, presenting yourself as an asset to the company or the position, and remaining persistent in your efforts. When I first started looking for entry-level jobs at sixteen, I found that its one thing to submit an application and wait, but it's another thing to go in, see the manager, talk with them and present yourself to them as a worthy addition to their company. Like I said above though, I haven't been with you through these hiring processes you talk about, so I only know what you've told. If what you've said above is any indication of how you've gone about this, which is through simply submitting an application and biding time, then I'm not surprised you haven't found work yet. There are hundreds of people looking to have the same position as you. To any employer, your application could be one in a million to them.

Solar

Quote from: alienhand on November 11, 2018, 07:17:08 PM
Let's turn this question around.  Why do employers have a fear of hiring me when I did everything you and others suggested bu submitting applications?
Personality plays a huge part, so if you have the personality of a Saltine cracker, (Dry and Tasteless) they see someone not merging with the staff..
With that said, why are you afraid of failure?
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Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2018, 08:10:23 PM
Personality plays a huge part, so if you have the personality of a Saltine cracker, (Dry and Tasteless) they see someone not merging with the staff..
With that said, why are you afraid of failure?

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!  You are the next contestant on the Price is Right!  You have admitted to the honest truth about our society and employers.   And, the truth is I don't have the personality they want.  It isn't fear of failure that caused my issues.  It is my aspergers combined with my personality type and what employers demand that I literally can't meet that caused my failure.

Will you now admit that life is not always what we make it but what others make it as well and that we don't have as much control over our destinies and admit that some will not and cannot succeed in today's world whatsoever?

As for fear of failure and why do I fear it.  I already failed.  Truth is, I did everything you suggested.  I went to Voc Rehab twice and I went to another disability organization.  It doesn't work.

walkstall

Quote from: alienhand on November 11, 2018, 09:06:41 PM
Truth is, I did everything you suggested.  I went to Voc Rehab twice and I went to another disability organization.  It doesn't work.

It did not work or you did not work.  Rehab you have to put something into it of yourself for it to work.  I would like hearing the Rehab side of the story, about your lazy ass. 
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QuoteSo, it's always me no matter the case?  I didn't work hard enough.  I didn't put enough effort.  My expectations are to high.   My attitude is to negative.  I need more confidence and to believe in myself more.  I'm entitled.  I'm lazy.  Yet, at the same time be myself while being this confident, professional and outgoing person.

Is society ever wrong at all?

Yes society is wrong as they keep sending you a check.
Why did you delete this post
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Solar

Quote from: alienhand on November 11, 2018, 09:06:41 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!  You are the next contestant on the Price is Right!  You have admitted to the honest truth about our society and employers.   And, the truth is I don't have the personality they want.  It isn't fear of failure that caused my issues.  It is my aspergers combined with my personality type and what employers demand that I literally can't meet that caused my failure.

Will you now admit that life is not always what we make it but what others make it as well and that we don't have as much control over our destinies and admit that some will not and cannot succeed in today's world whatsoever?

As for fear of failure and why do I fear it.  I already failed.  Truth is, I did everything you suggested.  I went to Voc Rehab twice and I went to another disability organization.  It doesn't work.
So the honest truth is, you're an asshole and refuse to change? That somehow society is supposed to bend to accommodate your lousy personality?
Well then screw you, for that very reason not one person here should give a fuck about your whining and how miserable you think your life is because you blame us for your failure in life.
News for ya loser, life it what it is, you either find a way to accommodate those around you, or get pushed out and live miserable the rest of your life.

That's it, society is not changing for you. Like I said, you are your own worst enemy.
So after pages and pages of excuses, we finally get to the root of the problem. It's you. Not your inabilities or disabilities, but you, the dickhead that refuses to conform to societal norms.
Good luck with that. Not only is life not fair, but life's a bitch. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Have we not put up with his BS long enough? He is not going to change.
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walkstall

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tac

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 12, 2018, 05:02:02 AM
Have we not put up with his BS long enough? He is not going to change.

The pity party posts have gone on too damn long.  :cursing:

Solar

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Quote from: tac on November 12, 2018, 11:59:37 AM
The pity party posts have gone on too damn long.  :cursing:
Self pity, I don't think anyone here has any sympathy for anyone not willing to take any work whatsoever.

Job Openings Exceed Unemployed Americans Again in July as Employers Feel the Pinch
An increasingly tight labor market leads companies to alter the way they look for workers
By Eric Morath
September 11, 2018
The number of available jobs in the U.S. exceeded the number of job seekers by more than 650,000 in July—a gap that has been growing—in a sign of an increasingly tight labor market that is altering how employers find workers.

The number of available jobs in the U.S. rose by about 117,000 to a seasonally adjusted 6.94 million in July, the Labor Department said Tuesday. That is the highest level on record back to 2000, exceeding the prior peak set in April. It also exceeds the 6.28 million Americans who were unemployed during...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/job-openings-exceed-unemployed-americans-again-in-july-as-employers-feel-the-pinch-1536691533
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Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2018, 12:05:44 PM
Self pity, I don't think anyone here has any sympathy for anyone not willing to take any work whatsoever.

Job Openings Exceed Unemployed Americans Again in July as Employers Feel the Pinch
An increasingly tight labor market leads companies to alter the way they look for workers
By Eric Morath
September 11, 2018
The number of available jobs in the U.S. exceeded the number of job seekers by more than 650,000 in July—a gap that has been growing—in a sign of an increasingly tight labor market that is altering how employers find workers.

The number of available jobs in the U.S. rose by about 117,000 to a seasonally adjusted 6.94 million in July, the Labor Department said Tuesday. That is the highest level on record back to 2000, exceeding the prior peak set in April. It also exceeds the 6.28 million Americans who were unemployed during...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/job-openings-exceed-unemployed-americans-again-in-july-as-employers-feel-the-pinch-1536691533

The problem is that a person has to want to work. Many find it easier to sit home and complain to the world that they cannot find a job. We all know that's BS.

walkstall

Quote from: tac on November 12, 2018, 12:24:28 PM
The problem is that a person has to want to work. Many find it easier to sit home and complain to the world that they cannot find a job. We all know that's BS.

The thing is alienhand AKA cubedemon has been playing this game for four years.  He has no intentions of finding a job or work.  Until all of government cuts him off.  All I hear from him is "I can't do it" BS.  As long as money keeps coming in there will always be a Lack of Motivation for him.   
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

alienhand

Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2018, 04:39:53 AM
So the honest truth is, you're an asshole and refuse to change? That somehow society is supposed to bend to accommodate your lousy personality?
Well then screw you, for that very reason not one person here should give a fuck about your whining and how miserable you think your life is because you blame us for your failure in life.
News for ya loser, life it what it is, you either find a way to accommodate those around you, or get pushed out and live miserable the rest of your life.

That's it, society is not changing for you. Like I said, you are your own worst enemy.
So after pages and pages of excuses, we finally get to the root of the problem. It's you. Not your inabilities or disabilities, but you, the dickhead that refuses to conform to societal norms.
Good luck with that. Not only is life not fair, but life's a bitch. :lol: :lol: :lol: