Compartmentalization of Topics and Thoughts

[Solar]

So I take it, you don't have places like this in your area?

http://morerehab.org/about-us/

[walkstall]

So I take it, you don't have places like this in your area?

http://morerehab.org/about-us/

It sounds like he has been well schooled in I can't do it, give me free stuff.

[Solar]

It sounds like he has been well schooled in I can't do it, give me free stuff.

Personal responsibility is no longer taught in schools. How did people ever make it in the past?
Oh yeah, they found the  answers all on their own. Or the church helped, yeah, those evil Christians, how dare they interfere with the govt.

[alienhand]

Personal responsibility is no longer taught in schools. How did people ever make it in the past?
Oh yeah, they found the  answers all on their own. Or the church helped, yeah, those evil Christians, how dare they interfere with the govt.

[supsalemgr]

Then move. I don't know where you live, but 80% of the business in my surrounding towns are seeking people to work, from mini marts to Home depot as well as all the mom and pop franchise stores.
And this is in Ca, where people and business are bailing on the socialist state. You may fare better in Texas than where you're stuck now.
You are proving you are your own worst enemy.

When I am out in my town just about every business is hiring. It makes me think, if one is healthy and willing to work there is a job.

[Solar]

When I am out in my town just about every business is hiring. It makes me think, if one is healthy and willing to work there is a job.

Just putting out a flyer to mow lawns will get you more work than you can handle.
Anyone that wants to work in this economy can find it, if they can't, they better lower their expectations fast, or they'll never go anywhere in life.

[alienhand]

When I am out in my town just about every business is hiring. It makes me think, if one is healthy and willing to work there is a job.

Healthy being the operative word.

[walkstall]

Healthy being the operative word.

"Willing to work" being the operative words.   

[supsalemgr]

Healthy being the operative word.

Until you quit hiding behind your disability you have no chance for success.

[walkstall]

Until you quit hiding behind your disability you have no chance for success.

Bingo we have a winner.

[alienhand]

"Willing to work" being the operative words.

Re-read what supsalemgr said.  He said if one is healthy and willing to work there is a job for them.  But, it's what he doesn't say but implies that says it all.  What he is implying by that comment here is that employers are not going to hire those they perceive to be unhealthy.   And, he is right.  Employers are not going to hire someone who is not healthy as everyone else.  Why would they?  Those who are unhealthy are more of a liability to employers then those who are healthy.

This isn't me hiding behind my disability.  You know what.  I'll take that back.  If hiding behind my disability means I'm telling the truth and using critical thought to get to the truth then yes I'm hiding behind my disability. Are employers for the most part willing to hire me if I'm willing to work?  More then likely, the answer is no.

Solar, I've been to programs like that with Voc Rehab.  I got nothing but the run-around.  And, if those programs were effective and they worked then why are the majority of those who are disabled no matter the age bracket not in the labor force?  Or are you Solar going to state that the Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't count because it was developed by liberals with an agenda.  Come the fuck on dude.  Is that the only answer you guys have when anything contradicts what you guys state as the truth.  That it's apart of the liberal/socialist/marxist agenda.   You guys know what I'm stating is solid truth.  I know you guys know this.  Even with your own words like life is not fair and no one is guaranteed anything in life proves that you must accept what I state is truth. 

The real reason you guys will not accept what I say as truth is this.  And, it is two fold.  A.  What it comes down to is that you guys want life to be fair but be fair in your own way.  In other words, you don't want to feel like you're paying money through your tax dollars to those who do nothing.  You see this as unfair and it is very emotional for you guys.  B.  The concept of America and all the tenets and precepts is a religion to you.  It is what bellah calls a civic religion.  The constitution is a holy document and the founding fathers are the prophets.   And, the Washington monument and all of our buildings are sacred temples.  You guys are emotionally attached to the founding fathers and the antebellum period.  It is not reason, critical thought and logic that drives you guys but emotion.  Anyone who questions or challenges these things is considered unamerican or really unholy, heretic and apostate.  I am a heretic, unholy and an apostate in your eyes is what I am.

[walkstall]

Re-read what supsalemgr said.  He said if one is healthy and willing to work there is a job for them.  But, it's what he doesn't say but implies that says it all.  What he is implying by that comment here is that employers are not going to hire those they perceive to be unhealthy.   And, he is right.  Employers are not going to hire someone who is not healthy as everyone else.  Why would they?  Those who are unhealthy are more of a liability to employers then those who are healthy.

This isn't me hiding behind my disability.  You know what.  I'll take that back.  If hiding behind my disability means I'm telling the truth and using critical thought to get to the truth then yes I'm hiding behind my disability. Are employers for the most part willing to hire me if I'm willing to work?  More then likely, the answer is no.

Solar, I've been to programs like that with Voc Rehab.  I got nothing but the run-around.  And, if those programs were effective and they worked then why are the majority of those who are disabled no matter the age bracket not in the labor force?  Or are you Solar going to state that the Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't count because it was developed by liberals with an agenda.  Come the fuck on dude.  Is that the only answer you guys have when anything contradicts what you guys state as the truth.  That it's apart of the liberal/socialist/marxist agenda.   You guys know what I'm stating is solid truth.  I know you guys know this.  Even with your own words like life is not fair and no one is guaranteed anything in life proves that you must accept what I state is truth. 

The real reason you guys will not accept what I say as truth is this.  And, it is two fold.  A.  What it comes down to is that you guys want life to be fair but be fair in your own way.  In other words, you don't want to feel like you're paying money through your tax dollars to those who do nothing.  You see this as unfair and it is very emotional for you guys.  B.  The concept of America and all the tenets and precepts is a religion to you.  It is what bellah calls a civic religion.  The constitution is a holy document and the founding fathers are the prophets.   And, the Washington monument and all of our buildings are sacred temples.  You guys are emotionally attached to the founding fathers and the antebellum period.  It is not reason, critical thought and logic that drives you guys but emotion.  Anyone who questions or challenges these things is considered unamerican or really unholy, heretic and apostate.  I am a heretic, unholy and an apostate in your eyes is what I am.

Your full of SHIT!!  Get up off your ass and find a job.  You been on the gravy train all your life and you love it.  IF a Wet Back with an IQ of under 81 can get a job so can you.  Hell Walmart Greeter salaries can range from $8 - $15 and Greeter salaries at The Home Depot can range from $8 - $14.   Are these jobs beneath you?

[taxed]

Your full of SHIT!!  Get up off your ass and find a job.  You been on the gravy train all your life and you love it.  IF a Wet Back with an IQ of under 81 can get a job so can you.  Hell Walmart Greeter salaries can range from $8 - $15 and Greeter salaries at The Home Depot can range from $8 - $14.   Are these jobs beneath you?

I concur.

[alienhand]

Your full of SHIT!!  Get up off your ass and find a job.  You been on the gravy train all your life and you love it.  IF a Wet Back with an IQ of under 81 can get a job so can you.  Hell Walmart Greeter salaries can range from $8 - $15 and Greeter salaries at The Home Depot can range from $8 - $14.   Are these jobs beneath you?

Why such anger Walkstall and vitriol?  Why do you, Solar and others care whether I compete or not?  In fact, wouldn't it be better if I dropped out of the game completely because it would mean less people for you to compete with?  You are still able to make it and provide yourself a living?  You're able to succeed and even have friends.   So, why does my dropping out anger you and others so much.

It's because you and others feel it is unfair to be forced by the government to pay through your tax dollars to provide me a living.  This is how you perceive it and your sense of justice and fairness decries this as outrage. 

It is also because if you accepted that I'm truthfully right then you and others would have to question what you all accept as truth.  You are all attached to America not as a country but as a religion.  Our society says that anyone can work hard and be successful no matter the circumstances.  It's the American Dream.  You all are attached to this dream and anyone who questions or challenges it is seen as unAmerican heretic.  I'm a heretic in your eyes.

But the truth of the matter is that it is factually true that life is not fair and no one is guaranteed anything.   This means that not everyone will succeed in the USA at all and you and others would have to accept that your sacred cow of personal responsibility is bullshit because choice is a myth in world of limits.

The truth is the attachment to what you state as truth is what helps to shape your identities.  It fundamentally helps to shape who you are as individuals who are a part of your communities.   Everyone is who they are by their thoughts and truths and once one starts to question underlying assumptions one destroys who they are. 

[walkstall]

alienhand hard at work.  EOM