The big man has spoken. Y'all don't want me here, and I don't want to be here.

If I were to start an online fundraiser, such as Kickstarter or GoFundMe or something like that, would y'all chip in? Every penny is one step closer to getting rid of another Bernie-Sanders-loving hippie, and I can go live in Scandinavia where it's cold.

Thanks, and have fun Making America Great Again 🙂

Just like a Socialist, asking someone other than you to foot the bill.  They tell me it's not crowd walking. 

Quote from: WinterLover on July 24, 2019, 11:32:55 AM


The big man has spoken. Y'all don't want me here, and I don't want to be here.

If I were to start an online fundraiser, such as Kickstarter or GoFundMe or something like that, would y'all chip in? Every penny is one step closer to getting rid of another Bernie-Sanders-loving hippie, and I can go live in Scandinavia where it's cold.

Thanks, and have fun Making America Great Again 🙂

Why Scandinavia, when I would happily send you to Somalia, or Iran.

LOL  Too funny, but the best functioning nations combine pieces of all ideas and socialism is just an idea.  Consider Trump's favorite place, Norway, a socialistic democracy, but I doubt many study or even understand these ideas. I know lots of Americans who love socialistic items such as Medicare and Social Security. Bet you do too.

See 'Political Keywords: A Guide for Students, Activists, and Everyone Else' by Andrew Levine
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1109577.Political_Keywords

"Karl Marx was right, socialism works, it is just that he had the wrong species." Edward O. Wilson

Quote from: midcan5 on July 25, 2019, 03:27:47 AM
LOL  Too funny, but the best functioning nations combine pieces of all ideas and socialism is just an idea.  Consider Trump's favorite place, Norway, a socialistic democracy, but I doubt many study or even understand these ideas. I know lots of Americans who love socialistic items such as Medicare and Social Security. Bet you do too.

See 'Political Keywords: A Guide for Students, Activists, and Everyone Else' by Andrew Levine
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1109577.Political_Keywords

Do you ever think for yourself? You are always posting links to books that support your warped view of the world. Try reading an opposition research paper or two on occasion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/#6bc0a86d74ad

Quote"Karl Marx was right, socialism works, it is just that he had the wrong species." Edward O. Wilson

Marx was a raving Commie lunatic that knew the only way his ideas could work, was through oppression and confiscation of property at the point of a gun. You know, like your Dim socialists envision.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGpU-nxtIk

Quote from: WinterLover on July 24, 2019, 11:32:55 AM


The big man has spoken. Y'all don't want me here, and I don't want to be here.

If I were to start an online fundraiser, such as Kickstarter or GoFundMe or something like that, would y'all chip in? Every penny is one step closer to getting rid of another Bernie-Sanders-loving hippie, and I can go live in Scandinavia where it's cold.

Thanks, and have fun Making America Great Again 🙂

As a Norwegian, if you think moving to scandinavia will be easy for you you have another thing coming. Stay away from Norway is my suggestion at least. Norwegians are xenophobic and hate Americans, for real. You wont be able to get a job, Norwegians will almost exlusively hire other Norwegian people. Unless we are talking like bar and restaurant jobs, which you could eventually maybe get, but those are never full time.

Wages here are not that much higher than in America, but lord is our taxes. As a nurse I make 400 000 norwegian kroner a year, that is about 44 000 dollars. After taxes I make about 23 333 nok. 2500 dollars. Which probably doesnt sound too bad? Until you start getting into expenses. Rent is SO high , a 2 bedroom is about 1700 dollars. Yes you got that right. But that is in the city you might ask? Why yes it is. Why dont I just move outside the city and rent a bit cheaper?

Ok maybe outside the city I can find something to rent for 1000 dollars. Awesome! Oh wait, I have to have a car now. To buy a brand new car here is like 40 000 dollars, and Im not talking a big or a nice car. Just your basic car. You can get a used car for cheaper, but then there is repairs, which imagine what is also obcenely expensive in this country! So you have the monthly payment of your car loan , if you buy a reasonably priced used car that wont break down on you any second, 250 dollars Id say. Then you have to drive into work, cause there are no jobs outside the city here really, not if you want to go far enough away that you have cheaper rent. You have to pay toll money. Tollmoney could easily be another 400 dollars. Then there is gas. Gas in Norway is 3.7 times more expensive than in America! That adds up... In addition there is a yearly tax you pay to have a car.

Okayokay, maybe you want to buy a house you are thinking? Not without 55 000 dollars youre not, and that is for small apartment. Try saving up for that whilst paying 1700 dollars in rent...  If you want a family you need an even larger downpayment than that. A one bedroom apartment here usually goes for around 2 million nok, so like 200 000 dollars. For a SMALL apartment.

And yeah almost forgot groceries, how much do you think the average Norwegian spends on food for a family of four? Hint, its a lot.

Like having fun?A six pack of beer costs at least 17 dollars, and thats the low quality stuff. And oh, you have to buy it before 8 on weekdays and 6 on saturdays. On sundays it isnt sold at all. If you want liquor or wine you got to go to the liqor store, which is only open till 6 on weekdays 3 on saturdays and not at all on sundays. And you american liberals like to complain chick fil a is closed on sundays, hah! Here a grocery store cant be open on sundays unless its sufficienly small.

Want to protect yourself? You cant even carry pepperspray or a tazor, or a knife. Somebody wants to rape you you are fair game


And Im quite serious when I say you cant get a job,  my husband cant get a job here. You need to show experience, a certificate or have an education for EVERYTHING. Want to be a waitor? You can after trying hard for a long time, but they usually prefer people with a waitor education. YEs, education to be a waitor. Im not kidding. Its high school level. First two years of theory then two years of training in a business THEN you get to be a certified waitor. Want to clean dishes? You need to speak the language and also have 2 + years experience (again Im serious, that was spesifically mentioned in the job posting).  Want to do something related to your actual education? Forget about it, everyone here has a masters. Grocery store is your best bet for a job in this country I guess, its the most common job and thats where all the people with their useless master education go to work.  Ok, what about driving lyft, uber, or something? Nope thats banned here. You have to take a course for 6 weeks and pass a test to be a certified cab driver, and oh its all in Norwegian.

Want to make friends maybe? Your best bet as a foreigner is with other foreigners. Norwegians are shy and like to stick to their own. Which is why they also hire their own...

All the while 99.9% of Norwegians speak good English.

If you learn the language getting a job is a little bit easier but people will still deny you jobs or not even call you into interviews just from looking at your name.


Want to have children, its cheap in Norway right? Well daycare actually does cost around 400 dollars per child, which isnt that bad. BUT since the government foots part of the bill, guess what? They will be all up in your business about how to raise your child. If they feel like you arent cooparating with them they will call child protective services quick. We currently have 30 cases from Norway in EUs human rights Tribunal atm regarding Norwegian Child Protective services. A woman got asylum in Poland to escape them. Also you can only apply for daycares in march, so if you do get a job oppurtunity somewhere else than where you live and you have children? Good luck.

Sincerely a Norwegian married to an American seriously considering moving out of this nightmare that is my country

(consider Finland instead if you really really want to come to scandinavia, the language is really difficult though).

This was an old thread in the Alternative board, but had to move here because of a great post from ALN...

Thanks for that thoughtful insight ALN.
Oh, and welcome to the forum, I hope you stick around and post your thoughts on any and everything. Also, come on over, you are more than welcome here in the US, you seem to get it.

I think it's time we have a general census and actually pick a country that Liberals would prefer versus America.

Not Norway at least, unless you enjoy being broke despite having spent 3-5 years in college lol

I dont make more than someone working in a freaking grocery store 

Denmark has friendlier people but even higher taxes, if you can imagine. Since they have no oil. Lack of personal freedom also still applies but I guess socialists dont mind that

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 12:17:39 PM
Not Norway at least, unless you enjoy being broke despite having spent 3-5 years in college lol

I dont make more than someone working in a freaking grocery store 

Denmark has friendlier people but even higher taxes, if you can imagine. Since they have no oil. Lack of personal freedom also still applies but I guess socialists dont mind that

Welcome. Thanks for your observations of your country.

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 12:17:39 PM
Not Norway at least, unless you enjoy being broke despite having spent 3-5 years in college lol

I dont make more than someone working in a freaking grocery store 

Denmark has friendlier people but even higher taxes, if you can imagine. Since they have no oil. Lack of personal freedom also still applies but I guess socialists dont mind that

They are already have college debt here, and still end up working at a minimum wage job because the degree is crap. Can't get rich with graduating with a major in lesbian dance theory.

During Denmark winter, isn't it dark all the time? Sounds miserable enough for a Liberal.

Plus, I didn't know Denmark were such Nazi's on normal body functions.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 30, 2019, 12:12:38 PM
I think it's time we have a general census and actually pick a country that Liberals would prefer versus America.


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If you can't be happy in America you can't be happy anywhere.

Hahahah " fart control" fart means speed, youre not the first confused foreigner. The first time my husband came here he was confused about the word "fagskole" on a car with a rainbow flag on it xD and no, it doesnt mean what you think it means

And yes Denmark is dark. Norway is even darker since it is even further north. The weather is another thing I forgot to mention that aboslutely sucks here. There is snow in march. And lots of it