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Gary Johnson’s Awkward Night
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 09:56:44 PM »
Stupid LIB-ertarian

Then came the most excruciating passage of the night:

I knew these were going to be crucial even back then. ||| Matt Welch
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CUOMO: All right. Governor Johnson, let's do some word association here. I'll say the name, you hit me with the first thing that comes to mind. Remember, we've got an audience here and a lot of people watching out there, as well. President Barack Obama?

JOHNSON: Good guy.

CUOMO: One. Governor Weld?

WELD: Barack Obama? I think he's been statesman-like the last couple of years. He had a disappointing first term, and I think he's picked up his game the last couple of years. It's gone better for him.

CUOMO: Hillary Clinton?

JOHNSON: Hillary Clinton, a wonderful public servant, I guess I would say that.

WELD: Old friend. Nice kid. Knew her in her 20s. We shared an office in the Nixon impeachment, real bond, lifelong. Seriously. Not kidding.

 https://reason.com/blog/2016/06/23/nice-guys-finish-third-gary-johnsons-awk
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Re: Gary Johnson’s Awkward Night
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2016, 04:45:15 AM »
Stupid LIB-ertarian

Then came the most excruciating passage of the night:

I knew these were going to be crucial even back then. ||| Matt Welch
Matt Welch
CUOMO: All right. Governor Johnson, let's do some word association here. I'll say the name, you hit me with the first thing that comes to mind. Remember, we've got an audience here and a lot of people watching out there, as well. President Barack Obama?

JOHNSON: Good guy.

CUOMO: One. Governor Weld?

WELD: Barack Obama? I think he's been statesman-like the last couple of years. He had a disappointing first term, and I think he's picked up his game the last couple of years. It's gone better for him.

CUOMO: Hillary Clinton?

JOHNSON: Hillary Clinton, a wonderful public servant, I guess I would say that.

WELD: Old friend. Nice kid. Knew her in her 20s. We shared an office in the Nixon impeachment, real bond, lifelong. Seriously. Not kidding.

 https://reason.com/blog/2016/06/23/nice-guys-finish-third-gary-johnsons-awk

He should have run as a democrat.  :smile:
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Re: Gary Johnson’s Awkward Night
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2016, 05:47:34 AM »
He should have run as a democrat.  :smile:
Yep, though it does appear that's who he's playing to.
Makes me wonder if the Establishment doesn't keep this lib propped up, out of fear of the base bailing on the GOP.
Can't have an actual principled guy leading the party.
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Re: Gary Johnson: I Agree With 73% of What Bernie Sanders Says
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2016, 05:57:07 PM »
As a libertarian, I think this CNN town hall was basically embarrassing all the way through.  The praise for Hillary was just one of many gaffs and offenses throughout the evening.  Johnson is socially awkward, isn't well read in libertarian philosophy, and doesn't represent libertarianism very well.  Yet, I still MAY vote for him in November because I want to elevate the Libertarian Party and break through the two party stranglehold over electoral politics.  But just be aware that Johnson does not represent the views of most libertarians.

The Libertarian Party was caught totally unprepared for the opportunity that a third party has this election cycle and they did not field very impressive candidates.  It's a shame but, unlike most other ideologies, libertarianism is not concentrated on a particular party.  Many libertarians don't vote out of principle.  So the Libertarian Party has become almost a sideshow to the broader libertarian movement.  The fact that Ron Paul has recently run as a Republican and has not been actively involved with the official Libertarian Party for many years further illustrates this point.

I don't think Johnson is a bad guy at all.  He's just made some bad choices in his campaign so far and is an intellectual lightweight.  Actively pandering to disaffected Democrats while actively alienating disaffected conservatives is quite foolish.  He should be making a principled appeal to both of them. 

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Re: Gary Johnson: I Agree With 73% of What Bernie Sanders Says
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2016, 06:29:19 PM »
As a libertarian,
You're not a libertarian.  You're a liberal.  Please don't lie to the forum.  Thank you.

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I think this CNN town hall was basically embarrassing all the way through.  The praise for Hillary was just one of many gaffs and offenses throughout the evening.
It wasn't a gaff, dummy.

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  Johnson is socially awkward, isn't well read in libertarian philosophy, and doesn't represent libertarianism very well.
That explains why you voted for him.

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  Yet, I still MAY vote for him in November because I want to elevate the Libertarian Party and break through the two party stranglehold over electoral politics.  But just be aware that Johnson does not represent the views of most libertarians.

The Libertarian Party was caught totally unprepared for the opportunity that a third party has this election cycle and they did not field very impressive candidates.  It's a shame but, unlike most other ideologies, libertarianism is not concentrated on a particular party.  Many libertarians don't vote out of principle.  So the Libertarian Party has become almost a sideshow to the broader libertarian movement.  The fact that Ron Paul has recently run as a Republican and has not been actively involved with the official Libertarian Party for many years further illustrates this point.

I don't think Johnson is a bad guy at all.  He's just made some bad choices in his campaign so far and is an intellectual lightweight.  Actively pandering to disaffected Democrats while actively alienating disaffected conservatives is quite foolish.  He should be making a principled appeal to both of them.
Caught unprepared?
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